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	<title>Comments on: Why Isn&#8217;t Desktop Virtualization More Widely Adopted?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct that desktop virtualization goes beyond just VDI.  The fact is that Terminal Server has advantages over VDI, while VDI also has advantages over Terminal Server.  That&#039;s why most organizations are best served by adopting a hybrid approach, with an optimal mix of Terminal Server (for task-oriented users), VDI (for power users),  and Blade PCs (stock traders, graphic designers, etc.) which delivers the most benefit and platform flexibility to the organization.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Note from Blog Admin:&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;  The balance of this comment has been deleted because, in our judgment, it crossed the line between providing information and trying to use our blog to promote your product.  However, organizations that need to manage a mixture of virtualization methods may want to note that Ericom has a product, &quot;PowerTerm WebConnect,&quot; that is specifically designed to manage mixed environments.  Moose Logic does not have direct experience with this product, and therefore does not endorse it.  Those who may want more information can find it at www.ericom.com.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct that desktop virtualization goes beyond just VDI.  The fact is that Terminal Server has advantages over VDI, while VDI also has advantages over Terminal Server.  That&#8217;s why most organizations are best served by adopting a hybrid approach, with an optimal mix of Terminal Server (for task-oriented users), VDI (for power users),  and Blade PCs (stock traders, graphic designers, etc.) which delivers the most benefit and platform flexibility to the organization.</p>
<p><strong><em>Note from Blog Admin:</em></strong>  The balance of this comment has been deleted because, in our judgment, it crossed the line between providing information and trying to use our blog to promote your product.  However, organizations that need to manage a mixture of virtualization methods may want to note that Ericom has a product, &#8220;PowerTerm WebConnect,&#8221; that is specifically designed to manage mixed environments.  Moose Logic does not have direct experience with this product, and therefore does not endorse it.  Those who may want more information can find it at <a href="http://www.ericom.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ericom.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Flaming</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Flaming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 03:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the other big underlying issues is &lt;b&gt;User Entitlement&lt;/b&gt;.

IMHO many users don&#039;t want to give up their laptop/desktop/tablet for a virtual desktop....fearing they will be limited in functionality.  Nor do they want to give up their apparent &quot;right&quot; to install whatever, whenever, however, wherever they want.

In talking with a customer awhile back, I asked if they had rolled back local admin permissions and the answer I got was, &quot;We did...for about a week.  Then the CEO walked in and said, &#039;I want users to be able to install apps when they want!&#039; We tried explaining it but he wouldn&#039;t listen.&quot;  None of this was very surprising to me - what was surprising was after studies were done and results were shown how it was far more costly (in hours and $$) to allow local admin permissions, the CEO still decided to allow all users local admin permissions...so it boiled down to User Entitlement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the other big underlying issues is <b>User Entitlement</b>.</p>
<p>IMHO many users don&#8217;t want to give up their laptop/desktop/tablet for a virtual desktop&#8230;.fearing they will be limited in functionality.  Nor do they want to give up their apparent &#8220;right&#8221; to install whatever, whenever, however, wherever they want.</p>
<p>In talking with a customer awhile back, I asked if they had rolled back local admin permissions and the answer I got was, &#8220;We did&#8230;for about a week.  Then the CEO walked in and said, &#8216;I want users to be able to install apps when they want!&#8217; We tried explaining it but he wouldn&#8217;t listen.&#8221;  None of this was very surprising to me &#8211; what was surprising was after studies were done and results were shown how it was far more costly (in hours and $$) to allow local admin permissions, the CEO still decided to allow all users local admin permissions&#8230;so it boiled down to User Entitlement.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kadish</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-272</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kadish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 10:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this is a great perspective! One area I think is worth exploring more are solutions to reduce IOP&#039;s requirements.

Of course I have a vested interest in this area as I work for Atlantis Computing.  However there are several different ways to reduce IOP&#039;s and all will have an impact TCO/ROI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this is a great perspective! One area I think is worth exploring more are solutions to reduce IOP&#8217;s requirements.</p>
<p>Of course I have a vested interest in this area as I work for Atlantis Computing.  However there are several different ways to reduce IOP&#8217;s and all will have an impact TCO/ROI.</p>
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		<title>By: Five Cool Products from Synergy 2010 &#124; Moose Logic Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Cool Products from Synergy 2010 &#124; Moose Logic Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 00:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a VDI solution, by which I mean a bunch of virtual PCs running on one or more virtualization hosts. As we’ve discussed in other posts, VDI is only one kind of desktop virtualization. If you want the flexibility of being able to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a VDI solution, by which I mean a bunch of virtual PCs running on one or more virtualization hosts. As we’ve discussed in other posts, VDI is only one kind of desktop virtualization. If you want the flexibility of being able to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Hanselman</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Hanselman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 21:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid - As Harry and Ron said, great perspective on how many solutions are really available for Hosted and Virtual Desktops (HVD, not to get too Gartner-ish).  There are even options outside of Windows as we see more interest in Linux desktops.

One great benefit of VDI/HVD is that it delivers the flexibility to target different user communities with computing solutions that meet their needs and IT budgets.  To be successful, we&#039;ve got to offer something that our users actually want to use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid &#8211; As Harry and Ron said, great perspective on how many solutions are really available for Hosted and Virtual Desktops (HVD, not to get too Gartner-ish).  There are even options outside of Windows as we see more interest in Linux desktops.</p>
<p>One great benefit of VDI/HVD is that it delivers the flexibility to target different user communities with computing solutions that meet their needs and IT budgets.  To be successful, we&#8217;ve got to offer something that our users actually want to use.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Herron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Herron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 20:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry &amp; Ron - Thank you both for your comments.  This is precisely the kind of exchange of ideas we had hoped would develop when we launched our blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry &#038; Ron &#8211; Thank you both for your comments.  This is precisely the kind of exchange of ideas we had hoped would develop when we launched our blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Labana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Labana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, finally getting a chance to read other views after a long CITRIX CITRIX CITRX week :-)

I agree personalization in many respect is the wrong word. Too narrow. I think it&#039;s more about simplifying the desktop full stop. IMHO, that&#039;s the bigger goal we must all strive towards if we want to realize hard cost benefits of desktop virtualization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, finally getting a chance to read other views after a long CITRIX CITRIX CITRX week <img src='http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree personalization in many respect is the wrong word. Too narrow. I think it&#8217;s more about simplifying the desktop full stop. IMHO, that&#8217;s the bigger goal we must all strive towards if we want to realize hard cost benefits of desktop virtualization.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Oglesby</title>
		<link>http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/why-isnt-desktop-virtualization-more-widely-adopted#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Oglesby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry! trolling the blogs I see!

Anyway, I think personalization is the WRONG word. But my vocabulary is too limited to find a new one. I can agree that in large (risk minimizing) orgs that lock down the desktop traditional personalization often is shunned. BUT, personalization is not profiles (as we both know) and things that we don’t think of as &quot;user stuff&quot; is getting wiped out with PVS or linked clones (Think encrypted keys in HKLM added by apps, GUIDs for Symantec enterprise or other End point mgmt and monitoring apps).  

Often we hit the issue with hammer. Maybe different hammers like a trim hammer, or framing hammer or ball peen hammer, but always a hammer. But sometimes... the problem isn’t a nail. It’s a bolt.

With that said someone I had dinner with in NYC once said that a CTO’s job was to take an idea that isn’t real and try to sell it and turn it into reality. Kind of like CTXS&#039;s Anywhere Any Device back in like 2000...  Allowing personalization (IMHO) is one of these things. Enabling users? Pulling them into the environment vs Pushing them. We’ve tried pushing VDI. It’s time to pull.

Had a good time at Synergy. Sorry I missed you there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry! trolling the blogs I see!</p>
<p>Anyway, I think personalization is the WRONG word. But my vocabulary is too limited to find a new one. I can agree that in large (risk minimizing) orgs that lock down the desktop traditional personalization often is shunned. BUT, personalization is not profiles (as we both know) and things that we don’t think of as &#8220;user stuff&#8221; is getting wiped out with PVS or linked clones (Think encrypted keys in HKLM added by apps, GUIDs for Symantec enterprise or other End point mgmt and monitoring apps).  </p>
<p>Often we hit the issue with hammer. Maybe different hammers like a trim hammer, or framing hammer or ball peen hammer, but always a hammer. But sometimes&#8230; the problem isn’t a nail. It’s a bolt.</p>
<p>With that said someone I had dinner with in NYC once said that a CTO’s job was to take an idea that isn’t real and try to sell it and turn it into reality. Kind of like CTXS&#8217;s Anywhere Any Device back in like 2000&#8230;  Allowing personalization (IMHO) is one of these things. Enabling users? Pulling them into the environment vs Pushing them. We’ve tried pushing VDI. It’s time to pull.</p>
<p>Had a good time at Synergy. Sorry I missed you there.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Labana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Labana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a good post. You hit the nail on the head by understanding that Desktop Virtualization is not VDI alone. I will argue though that in most managed the organizations, the amount of required personalization is not as broad as one may first assume. They also don&#039;t typically bother with SAN due to the cost. That&#039;s fud that was put out there by EMC to sell storage with VDI. This is why they are seeing traction. For smaller unmanaged environments it&#039;s a different can of worms, that is getting good attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a good post. You hit the nail on the head by understanding that Desktop Virtualization is not VDI alone. I will argue though that in most managed the organizations, the amount of required personalization is not as broad as one may first assume. They also don&#8217;t typically bother with SAN due to the cost. That&#8217;s fud that was put out there by EMC to sell storage with VDI. This is why they are seeing traction. For smaller unmanaged environments it&#8217;s a different can of worms, that is getting good attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Herron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Herron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ron - I&#039;m thinking of writing a separate post on the four or five cool products I saw at Synergy.  Unidesk is definitely one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ron &#8211; I&#8217;m thinking of writing a separate post on the four or five cool products I saw at Synergy.  Unidesk is definitely one of them.</p>
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