Comments for Moose Logic Blog http://www.mooselogic.com/blog Using technology to make businesses better Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:14:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on XenServer Host Is In Emergency Mode by http://www.mknet360.com/wiki/index.php/Usuario:CoraGee http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/xenserver-host-is-in-emergency-mode#comment-1421 http://www.mknet360.com/wiki/index.php/Usuario:CoraGee Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:14:47 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=1201#comment-1421 Thanks in support of sharing such a good thought, post is good, thats why i have read it entirely Thanks in support of sharing such a good thought,
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]]> Comment on Citrix Fixes the Provisioning Services – KMS Problem! by آفیس , آفيس ، office http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/citrix-fixes-the-provisioning-services-kms-problem#comment-1408 آفیس , آفيس ، office Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:47:44 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=1791#comment-1408 I do consider all the ideas you've presented for your post. They are very convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are too brief for beginners. Could you please lengthen them a little from next time? Thank you for the post. I do consider all the ideas you’ve presented for your post. They are very convincing and will certainly work. Nonetheless, the posts are too brief for beginners. Could you please lengthen them a little from next time? Thank you for the post.

]]> Comment on More on VDI-in-a-Box and Personal vDisks by Geoff Keate http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/more-on-vdi-in-a-box-and-personal-vdisks#comment-1398 Geoff Keate Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:36:20 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=2181#comment-1398 It does work, and it does restore, but yes, it is a pain to have to copy each PVD to the storage in every other hypervisor. Do wish the team, who are wonderful people BTW, would look at replication for the vDisk, rather than using a shared location as in HyperV 2012. Best solution in the long run is to ensure you have as few users of vDisk as possible, as restoring things can take time, and definitely no personal files in the P drive. For apps only, and only where App-V for example won't play ball. It does work, and it does restore, but yes, it is a pain to have to copy each PVD to the storage in every other hypervisor. Do wish the team, who are wonderful people BTW, would look at replication for the vDisk, rather than using a shared location as in HyperV 2012. Best solution in the long run is to ensure you have as few users of vDisk as possible, as restoring things can take time, and definitely no personal files in the P drive. For apps only, and only where App-V for example won’t play ball.

]]> Comment on More on Provisioning Services and KMS by Geoff Keate http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/more-on-provisioning-services-and-kms#comment-1397 Geoff Keate Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:27:33 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=1637#comment-1397 Fantastic script and just what I needed. Windows does whinge at you about unlawful acts etc, but it does what it needs to. No more nursing 25 bad tempered greedy Windows 7 vms in order to prime my KMS. I do wish MS would realize what a complete PINA having to do this is for those of us using VDI. Fantastic script and just what I needed. Windows does whinge at you about unlawful acts etc, but it does what it needs to. No more nursing 25 bad tempered greedy Windows 7 vms in order to prime my KMS. I do wish MS would realize what a complete PINA having to do this is for those of us using VDI.

]]> Comment on Some Straight Talk about VDI-in-a-Box by TK http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/some-straight-talk-about-vdi-in-a-box#comment-1349 TK Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:00:19 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=2117#comment-1349 Late last year, we priced out and purchased a full XenDesktop Enterprise configuration using Dell/Wyse Xenith 2 "zero clients" and with 12 x 600 GB SAS drives in a RAID6 configuration., I can realistically push 4,000 IOPS per tray, so not sure how your formula is that close to reality. I guess the environment may make a difference, as well, because the write/read ratio we see is not as high as 4:1. In addition, the full five-year cost assuming 60 users per server including all licensing, servers, storage, and maintenance, etc. came out to be something like $890 per seat (plus tax, extra!) and after five years, gets even cheaper as the initial license is factored and spread put over the initial 5 years. Granted, we do get an educational discount, but still, not a bad deal/ Our conclusion was -- in spite of the added complexity -- to go with XenDesktop Enterprise (which includes XenApp) and by leveraging the free XenServer hosting, came out to be a better investment for what you get. Above all, apps is where it's at, so why limit oneself to a physical PC? BTW, the Xenith 2 units draw about 7 Watts full power, so there's easily another $50 or so per year savings in electricity and A/C costs. --TK Late last year, we priced out and purchased a full XenDesktop Enterprise configuration using Dell/Wyse Xenith 2 “zero clients” and with 12 x 600 GB SAS drives in a RAID6 configuration., I can realistically push 4,000 IOPS per tray, so not sure how your formula is that close to reality. I guess the environment may make a difference, as well, because the write/read ratio we see is not as high as 4:1.
In addition, the full five-year cost assuming 60 users per server including all licensing, servers, storage, and maintenance, etc. came out to be something like $890 per seat (plus tax, extra!) and after five years, gets even cheaper as the initial license is factored and spread put over the initial 5 years. Granted, we do get an educational discount, but still, not a bad deal/
Our conclusion was — in spite of the added complexity — to go with XenDesktop Enterprise (which includes XenApp) and by leveraging the free XenServer hosting, came out to be a better investment for what you get. Above all, apps is where it’s at, so why limit oneself to a physical PC? BTW, the Xenith 2 units draw about 7 Watts full power, so there’s easily another $50 or so per year savings in electricity and A/C costs.
–TK

]]> Comment on Some Straight Talk about VDI-in-a-Box by Phil http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/some-straight-talk-about-vdi-in-a-box#comment-1346 Phil Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:14:57 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=2117#comment-1346 Is anyone still at the party? :-) "Total aquisition cost: $25,750, or $515/user. Not bad." Have you taken into account the the desktop hardware to access the VDI? Is anyone still at the party? :-)

“Total aquisition cost: $25,750, or $515/user. Not bad.”

Have you taken into account the the desktop hardware to access the VDI?

]]> Comment on Looking For the Citrix Acceleration Client for Win 7? by Mayunk http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/looking-for-the-citrix-acceleration-client-for-win-7#comment-1345 Mayunk Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:25:13 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=1221#comment-1345 Just because this post is one of the top results for someone looking for Citrix Accelerator plug-in on Google, thought I'd update with a comment. The Download section on MyCitrix is completely revamped, and it is much easier to find any kind of download now. Do give it a try and share your feedback! Thanks Just because this post is one of the top results for someone looking for Citrix Accelerator plug-in on Google, thought I’d update with a comment. The Download section on MyCitrix is completely revamped, and it is much easier to find any kind of download now. Do give it a try and share your feedback!

Thanks

]]> Comment on What Licenses Do I Need…. by Application virtualization comparison: XenApp vs. ThinApp vs. App-V : Comparison http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/what-licenses-do-i-need#comment-1343 Application virtualization comparison: XenApp vs. ThinApp vs. App-V : Comparison Fri, 01 Feb 2013 08:43:53 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=2152#comment-1343 [...] ThinApp and App-V usually yield app virtualization, though XenApp is an overall application smoothness system. The focus virtualization technology, that Citrix calls “streaming,” uses Microsoft’s Remote Desktop Services to broach applications to endpoints, so you have to watch out for Microsoft licensing issues. [...] [...] ThinApp and App-V usually yield app virtualization, though XenApp is an overall application smoothness system. The focus virtualization technology, that Citrix calls “streaming,” uses Microsoft’s Remote Desktop Services to broach applications to endpoints, so you have to watch out for Microsoft licensing issues. [...]

]]> Comment on What Licenses Do I Need…. by G http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/what-licenses-do-i-need#comment-1342 G Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:53:34 +0000 http://www.mooselogic.com/blog/?p=2152#comment-1342 First and foremost, thank you very much for this article, it's very clear and helpful. Licensing once it's right, it' can be relatively easy to maintain but if you are starting from scratch or rebuilding an infrastructure, it can be a mine field. I think the issue that most people find is that the documentation is too hard to read as there is too much of it, specially in complex scenarios. Secondly, MS normally want you to go through a reseller if you don't have a presence and that can be very frustrating for the smaller businesses. I'm just going to add to your VDA information. VDA licensing is only applicable when you access a dedicated Windows 7.XP desktop and not a shared desktop. Therefore a VDA license is applicable when a user is using a VDI platform such as XenDesktop/VMware View but not applicable when using RDS/XenApp. It is still bloody ridiculous though, as you are already paying a fortune for various licenses and this is an ongoing cost per annum, so if you are lucky enough like the guy deploying 850 desktops, that's another 85k per annum (might be discounts available at such volumes) on MS licensing if using VDA, but if you were using XenApp, you would not have this. (this is of course, if you are using thin clients as in the scenario above) Then you have the CDL licenses, this is a joke. Unfortunately licensing is very difficult. I could rant forever on this topic, but I found this post very helpful and I hope it helps many others. First and foremost, thank you very much for this article, it’s very clear and helpful.

Licensing once it’s right, it’ can be relatively easy to maintain but if you are starting from scratch or rebuilding an infrastructure, it can be a mine field.

I think the issue that most people find is that the documentation is too hard to read as there is too much of it, specially in complex scenarios. Secondly, MS normally want you to go through a reseller if you don’t have a presence and that can be very frustrating for the smaller businesses.

I’m just going to add to your VDA information. VDA licensing is only applicable when you access a dedicated Windows 7.XP desktop and not a shared desktop. Therefore a VDA license is applicable when a user is using a VDI platform such as XenDesktop/VMware View but not applicable when using RDS/XenApp. It is still bloody ridiculous though, as you are already paying a fortune for various licenses and this is an ongoing cost per annum, so if you are lucky enough like the guy deploying 850 desktops, that’s another 85k per annum (might be discounts available at such volumes) on MS licensing if using VDA, but if you were using XenApp, you would not have this. (this is of course, if you are using thin clients as in the scenario above)

Then you have the CDL licenses, this is a joke.

Unfortunately licensing is very difficult.

I could rant forever on this topic, but I found this post very helpful and I hope it helps many others.

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